When StrawMen are All you have

Why go to all this trouble NOT to support what YOU are claiming and to attack the opposite, hoping that it helps your case?

This meme was on the post but has been subsequently removed when I called him on his assertion that he got it from an “atheist website”.

((Correction: it wasn’t removed. I just didn’t see it. Mea culpa))

I searched the wording and didn’t find the meme or the wording anywhere, not even on the no gods no masters site listed on the bottom right of the pic.

There actually was an ad campaign by American Atheists awhile ago with similar wording “There’s probably no God…” And the rest was exactly the same.

(The “probably” matters because they weren’t claiming to know or believe, just that the question is irrelevant to their lives).

None of the memes found on the NGNM website match the wording that shows on this pic. So the meme with this wording on the post didn’t come from that website or any other website I could find.

And I got silence in response when I asked the blogger where he found it.

My guess is that it’s a doctored version of the ad or a meme avail from that website. Either way, this blogger or someone he got it from fabricated the meme here to match what they wanted to convey as the Atheist position.

Either way, it’s dishonest to missrepresent someone else’s position purely for Apologetics/Polemical purposes. If you want to be honest, you can do better.

A comment I left this morning on a Post that isn’t even trying to be fair or respectful of the other side of the conversation. Please read the post yourself for your own review. Sadly, it’s not a unique problem on wordpress with amateur internet apologists.

So many straw men in this post. Doesn’t even look like you’re trying to be objective here. I’m not atheist, but you should at least be fair with their actual positions.

His answer?

Kiabooks,

Thank you again for commenting.

Could you please show me a straw man in my post?

Could you please tell me what the atheist position is on cursing someone out?

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  • To start with, the meme pic you chose for a header. Atheist don’t claim “There is no God”, not do they “believe” there is no God.
    The rest of your post is an assertion that without belief in God, one cannot have a basis for moral behaviour or personal conduct.

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  • As for the atheist position on cursing people out? Not sure there is a general one. I’m not Atheist but I would suspect it’s individual and situational. For more than that you’d have to ask an atheist, rather than just make bold assertions. You clearly had no intention of doing anything but insulting them.

The point is, atheists don’t claim to know or even believe That God or Gods don’t exist. They just don’t believe.

The job of the evangelist or apologist is to demonstrate their claim that God exists and give evidence and reasons for others believing too. Not attack people for not believing.

If you want people to believe you… Do better and stop with the StrawMen.

-mike

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In Other Words:

Image by Esther Merbt from Pixabay
Welcome to my Weekly Participation Post here for In Other Words prompted by Patricia at her blog. I learned about it from another great BLOG. Why not visit there too? This should be fun.

I’ll let her explain the rules:

Write a story or poem of 5 Lines or Less
Use the picture and/or the word repair as inspiration
Link back to this post
If you are on WordPress this will create a pingback.
If you are not on WordPress put a link to your post in the comments.
You can also post your story or poem in the comments.

Here’s my entry for this week:

Time for Tea and an old book.

Surrounded by the green in my garden trees, I leaf thru one of the dusty classics from my shelf.

“Earl grey, hot!” is what one captain might call for, but I only like dryness when it’s accompanied by the Wit of Wilde.

Here I’m unmolested but by the occasional mosquito.

“Did someone call for a Mojito?”

Now it’s your turn. Give it a try. -mike

Witch Week 2019 is coming

My hope I to participate this year with a Villain who is also a tragic figure. Thx for hosting again. -mike

Calmgrove

In two months it will be that traditional witching period of the year, which will mean it’s now time to remind you of the annual blogging event that is due then.

Witch Week is an annual event inspired by a 1982 novel of the same name by Diana Wynne Jones. As always it’s planned to run from Halloween to Bonfire Night, the day celebrating the failure of a plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament in 1605. (The ‘mother of all parliaments’ is going through a different kind of crisis just now.)

Inaugurated by Lory of Emerald City Book Review, the week (now in its sixth year) features guest posts and a readalong all under a broad theme; for 2019 this is VILLAINS.

Curated this year, as last year, by Lizzie Ross and myself, 2019’s posts will all appear here on Calmgrove: at present we…

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Twittering Tales #158: Failing Forward

Twittering Tales #158 – The Photo Prompt

Photo by Mikechie Esparagoza at Pexels.com

 

Welcome to this week’s Installment of my Twittering Tales participation for a weekly event from a fellow blogger at:

https://katmyrman.com/2019/10/15/twittering-tales-158-15-october-2019/

She does a 280 character challenge weekly where she posts a prompt pic and encourages creativity. Please VISIT her site for an explaination of the rules. Please let her know if you’re participating also and if you could drop a line here too for us to follow, that would be fantastic. As for my entry… Here goes.

The last thing I expected to see was my own advice hitting me in the eyes on my way to the lawyers. But on my way to the lawyers office to finalize the papers closing my business, all I could see was the collection of placards on the back wall. It’s time for me to “Fail Forward”.
(280 characters)


Now it’s your turn. -mike

 

 

Ronovan Writes Monday HaiKu Challenge: Wail and Wake

Hello all you readers and writers. I’m joining the Weekly HaiKu Challenge on Mondays led by Ronovan Writes. Go HERE for the instructions and how to particpate. This week’s Prompt words are Wail and Wake.Here I my entry for this week.

The Keening Cry

Ahab sailed from port

No one considered his wife

Least of those himself.

With crazed ambition

Did the whaler hunt his prey

Lost more than his leg

The widow cried out

Night vigil for her husband

Ancient Tradition.

-mike

Why not have a try? Do you post, drop a link at Ronovan’s and if you’d like to let me know also, that would be fantastic.

-mike

Saturday Six Word Story Prompt (6WSP): “Fate”

Hi there all you blogger buddies and readers. This will hopefully be a weekly participation post for Saturday Six Word Story Prompt.

You can read the rules and guidelines HERE.

I’m participating in this week’s prompt of Fate. Why not join in? Here we go with my entry:

“We are free, within our Boundaries.”

I don’t believe in Divine Determinism or Preordained Happenstance. Even though there is nothing accidental by physics, Physics itself is not governed by Fate.

Nature is Natural and as such proceeds and unfolds as Nature sees fit. All involved. All interacting. All cooperating in the Dance.

“Destined to Create our own Fates.”

Why not join in with your own entry in the comments, on your blog with a link down below or just on the original blog that startd this Hot Mess. Down below, you know what to do.

-mike

Kia’s Friday Haiku Challenge: “Thinking”

Welcome back to Kia’s Friday Haiku Challenge. Sadly, we had no other participants from last week.
The rules are simple:

  • Either choose or take a picture related to the theme or word of the week, or feel free to use the Picture provided on my post
  • Create a HaiKu accordingly, three lines of poetry 5, 7, then 5 syllables in length.
  • Post to your blog, link to mine, and post the link to yours here in the comments below. You’ll have all weekend and up until the following Friday to enter.
  • With the next Friday’s post I’ll be doing a Round-up of participants with their links for readers to follow back to yours to enjoy and perhaps add to the fun with their own.

What fun we’ll have. Why not join in? Here is mine for this week… The word is Thinking.

I don’t know… yet

I once was so sure

The wisdom is not knowing

When you really don’t

mike

I’m still a thinking man. I wish I had spent more of my life admitting that I didn’t actually know even half of what I accepted as absolute truth. Now I see tons of others, who are now as I was then, who would rather critcize and attack what other people think than support what they themselves claim as truth.

People making posts on top of posts dealing with heavy philosophical or cosmological ‘arguments’ but they having little to no educational or formal training or background in the fields they speak on.

What is it about “I don’t know” that seems to threaten people so much?

Well, there is my try for today. Why not give it a try? Do your own post and drop a link or just comment below. Let’s do this!!

-mike